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Thin Clients, VDI and Linux integration from the front lines.... Raw and sometimes unedited notes based on my experiences with VMware, Thin Clients, Linux etc.

I think this has been one of the most frustrating periods in (in the last xx years) with dealing with Citrix and their product line up........

The acquisition of Net6 promised so much, but it arrived *in-house* at a time when they were clearly well into the next revision of MSAM and quite possibly already leaning towards the End-Point Analysis route. So consolidating the two Products/Software (MSAM/Net6) was probably a headache in itself, but then combine that with the Architecture, Design and the Personalities of the design teams......  

Now throw Marketing in to the equation, and it's no wonder we're all sitting here on the outside going "what the hell are they calling this solution this week???"

Anyway, enough of the bitching, what's done is done, right? As of right now this is how it all sits together (or at least under the current names) and my take on why this is what is.

(Please excuse a little poetic license in the following paragraph??)
At one stage Citrix produced a lovely little free tool called NFuse, it took a while to grow up, but it was pretty easy on the eye (and the resources) so it flowered and grew and grew - especially as it was at the right price! As this was all based on what might be loosely called open standards of HTML and HTTPS etc, people started playing and experimenting, pretty soon Citrix took note of this and thought "That's a good idea" so they **adopted** this and brought all the little components together and hey presto, before you now it we're now at WI 4.0 with it's smaller brother CSG 3.0......       The only problem with this little fairytale (as far as Citrix is concerned) is that they're FREE!! 

So what to do moving forward? Well, where you once had CSG 3.0 you can now have an Access Gateway (AG)
Where you once had WI and/or MSAM you can now have Advanced Access Control (AAC)

But here's the news that you don't get from Marketing, if you want the EndPoint Analysis from AAC but don't want the AG, it will work just fine with CSG 3.0 for FREE, just install the Logon Agent on the CSG like you did with MSAM.

If you want the AG, but don't care about the EndPoint Analysis from the AAC, then just redirect the *landing or home page* to the Web Interface (WI).

It's nice to see how well sorted the CSG and WI have become, easily installed on one Server, relatively simple to Load Balance, and real cheap - a genuine Ronseal product - it does what it says! But let's face it the writing is on the wall that neither of these products will be getting any further attention unless it's to ease the transition to the newer products that Citrix want you to be paying for.

I'm not bitter or anything, I can genuinely see there's some big improvements in adopting the AG and the AAC, and in a modern world with so many virus, Trojans, etc. out there you cannot afford to drop your guard for a moment. But it will be sad, some day too soon, to suddenly reminisce fondly about "you remember how with NFuse........"

Ah well.........    

Posted on Friday, October 7, 2005 7:30 PM Citrix , IT Management , Real Cool Stuff , Security | Back to top

Comments on this post: More on Citrix Access Gateway 4.1.2..... and how it ties in to the new AAC (Advanced Access Control - or the old MSAM?)

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This would be a huge loss for their small/medium sized customers. CSG is a great selling point with my customers.
Left by Cole on Oct 09, 2005 12:35 AM

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